192: Back to Human with Dan Schawbel

Dan Schawbel New York Times best-selling author of Promote Yourself and Me 2.0 and co-author of Back to Human talks with your host Travis Chappell about how to build relationships the right way. Dan also hosts a podcast called Five Questions where he interviews a variety of world-class humans in less than fifteen minutes.

Here’s what Travis and Dan discuss in this episode:

  • What are you most excited about right now?
    • The movement of Back to Human, encouraging people to become more self-aware of when and how they’re using technology.
    • Most people use technology as a crutch.
  • What are some practical ways that we can actively make sure that technology doesn’t take over our lives?
    • Use technology to schedule your appointments, but during the appointment, put it away.
    • The health reduction you get from loneliness is the same as smoking 15 cigarettes a day.
    • There’s a big difference between giving recognition in a text and getting up in front of the company and giving recognition.
    • If you work remotely you’re much less likely to stay with your company because you’re not getting face-to-face interactions.
  • If someone is sitting at their job and not liking it, how can they be more proactive?
    • A lot of problems can be solved in the recruiting process, you should be interviewing the recruiter.
    • Take a co-worker to lunch once or twice a week instead of eating at your desk.
  • Do you believe that what you know or who you know is more important, and why?
    • It’s who you know, who they know, and who knows you.
    • You want to help as many people as possible and bridge relationships.
  • Talk about how to introduce people.
    • You have to put a lot of thought behind connections and be sure it’s mutually beneficial.
    • Send an intro outlining how each party could benefit from the other.
    • It’s all about shining a light on others.
  • Talk about your new book Back to Human.
    • The most important chapter is called Lead with Empathy in the Me Too Era.
    • At the end of the day, it’s about just being a good person.

The Random Round:

  • What profession other than your own do you think it would be fun to attempt?
    • A psychologist
  • If you could sit on a park bench with anyone for an hour who would it be, and why?
    • Tom Peters
    • He created the whole business book genre
  • How do you like to consume content?
    • He’s an avid reader of things that are relevant to his interests and work.
  • Give us a glimpse of your morning routine.
    • Exercise
    • Make breakfast
    • Read for about an hour
    • The night before he’ll set goals for the next day
    • He’s flexible
  • What is something that you are not very good at?
    • Sports
  • What is your go-to pump up song?
    • A lot of EDM
  • What is one place where we can find you the most?

3 Key Points:

  1. Technology creates the illusion of connection.
  2. Connecting to people at work will greatly increase your happiness there.
  3. Leading with empathy is rare and effective.

Tweetable Quotes:

  • “Not having your cell phone is the new vacation.” – Dan
  • “There’s nothing like being near a person.” – Dan
  • “Every successful person has two things in common – they want to be more successful, and they want to be recognized for their success.” – Dan

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