070: Mentorship is Everything with Kieran McKeefery

On this episode of Build Your Network, Host Travis Chappell interviews Kieran McKeefery, the CTO for Podcast Websites and an avid web developer.

Here’s what Travis and Kieran discuss in this episode:

  • About Kieran McKeefery:
    • He’s the co-founder of Podcast Websites along with John Lee Dumas and Mark Asquith.
    • He loves development, playing with stuff and taking it apart.
    • How did he end up in development:
      • He’s been a php developer since he was 13.
      • When he was in school you couldn’t go do a course on development.
      • He picked it up and taught himself.
    • How did you get involved with Podcast Websites?
      • He worked for Mark Asquith’s agency before Podcast Websites.
      • Mark pitched the idea of the business to Kieran, and he jumped onboard.
    • Podcast Websites has about 400 users now.
  • Do you believe that what you know or who you know is more important, and why?
    • In certain aspects of life it’s who you know and not what you know.
      • If Kieran had gone to college, that might not have gotten him where he wanted in life.
    • How did you and Mark Asquith meet?
      • He went for an interview with Mark at his agency and didn’t know him before.
      • They’ve known each other for 4-5 years.
    • When did Podcast Websites start taking on customers?
      • About three years ago.
      • They had 100-150 beta members who gave great feedback.
    • Would you say you spent more time sharpening your skillset than you have trying to build relationships?
      • He still goes to conferences he needs to go to where he meets people.
      • Came home from Podcast Movement with over 300 business cards.
    • Will you spend 2018 working on your what or on your who?
      • He’ll be spending the year working on his “who.”
      • He feels he’s proficient in development, but sometimes you need to take a step out.
    • Have you ever had a mentor or been in a group mastermind that you feel has been helpful?
      • Nothing formal, just Mark’s day-to-day advice.
      • He sometimes doesn’t take criticism well, he takes it personally.
        • Mark has guided him to take criticism better.
      • Tell us about a moment when a connection led to a moment of success.
        • The time he interviewed with Mark at his agency.
        • He set up a web developer company in his house and it was difficult doing that on his own.
          • That’s when he decided to go interview with Mark.
            • It was here that he developed his business acumen.
          • Why do you think that a lot of people neglect to develop their inner circle?
            • People are afraid of networking, or think that it’s scary.
            • Once you get past that first awkward handshake, it starts to fall in place.
            • They could be afraid of criticism.
          • When you go into a networking situation, what’s the scariest part for you?
            • Being afraid that he’ll dominate the conversation.
          • If you had to boil it down to one tip about networking, what would it be?
            • Listen to the small stuff, the details. All the details count.
            • You’ve got to focus on listening.
          • How do you handle rejection, or the fear of rejection?
            • Once its happened a few times, you ask questions to find out why you were rejected.
            • He’s naturally okay with rejection, he just wants people to be successful.

The Random Round:

  • What profession other than your own do you think it would be fun to attempt?
    • Chef
  • If you could sit on a park bench for any hour with anyone past or present, who would it be?
    • His late mother, he’d like to talk to her again.
  • How do you like to learn best, books, blogs, podcasts or video?
    • Videos
  • One of your favorite videos.
    • Whatever’s on his feed
  • Give us a glimpse of your morning routine:
    • Wake up
    • Listen to favorite podcasts
    • Get into work
    • Ask Alexa to play pop-punk
  • What is your go-to pump up song:
    • Anything pop-punk
  • What are you not very good at?
    • Taking Criticism
  • Find him on Twitter, @kieranmckeef

Tweetable Quotes:

  • “The shortest runway to your goals is the who you know.”

Resources Mentioned:

Buildyournetwork.com– Podcast website

BYN.media/fb – Facebook Group

Podcast Websites–Kieran’s business

Podcast Movement



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