130: Rising to Power with Ron Carucci

On this episode of Build Your Network, Host Travis Chappell interviews Ron Carucci, co-founder and managing partner at Navalent with a 30-year track record of helping some of the world’s most most influential executives tackle strategy, organization, and leaderships.

Here’s what Travis and Ron discuss in this episode:

  • About Ron Carucci:
    • Regular contributor to HBR, Forbes, featured in Fortune, CEO Magazine, Business Insider, MSNBC, Inc., Businessweek, Smart Business, and Thought Leaders.
  • What are you most excited about?
    • Personally – they have a brand new dog.
    • Professionally-
      • He’s doing research again.
    • When you first got started, was it on purpose?
      • It was a random discovery.
      • He began his career in the arts, working in NYC.
      • He got bored easily in his first career and left NY to live in the middle east with a touring company.
      • That began a multiple year shift into organizational behavior and behavioral science.
      • What got him in trouble inside organizations made him a lot of money outside of them.
    • Did you go back to school for behavior and human development?
      • He did go back and get his master’s.
      • It was paid for by his employer.
      • He loved that a bunch of people could do something together than an individual can’t do.
    • Where did your mindset come from?
      • He realized he could have impact, it was just harder to do within a company.
      • He felt like he owed the people who were relying on him the truth.
    • How did you get people to arrive at a certain way of thinking?
      • He started by screwing up a lot.
      • He began to realize that people weren’t ready to hear what he was saying.
    • Talk to us about the ten year study on executive transition you did?
      • An investigation in one case began the ten year study.
      • More than half of leaders who take on broader roles fail in 18 months.
      • The data was incredibly rich and revealing.
      • With all the landmines organizations put in front of people, it’s a wonder any leaders succeed.
    • Talk about your book Rising to Power.
      • The book talks about what does ascent look like, and what do you do when you come to power.
      • The patterns we identify as success factors are widely received and recognized as things that ascending leaders do.
    • Do you believe that what you know or who you know is more important, and why?
      • Finding out how to apply what you know to you you know is vital.
      • If you’re introverted, the idea of networking is not appealing.
      • We don’t often teach people what it means to have a connection with someone.
    • What is the number one way to get better at reading people?
      • Go to a therapist and learn the basics of your own wiring.
      • Never assume that you know.
      • Practice and get other people to give you feedback.
      • If you claim that you believe that relationship building is vital to your success, but leave it up to chance, then you’re belying that you believe in relationships.

The Random Round:

  • What profession other than your own do you think it would be fun to attempt?
    • Restauranteering
  • If you could sit on a park bench with anyone for an hour who would it be, and why?
    • Alvin Toffler the futurist
  • How do you like to consume content?
    • Videos, blogs, books.
  • Give us a piece of content you’d recommend?
    • Barking Up the Wrong Tree blog
    • The Culture Code book
  • Give us a glimpse of your morning routine?
    • He picks a coffee mug and is grateful for the experience behind it.
  • What is your go-to pump up song?
    • Live Like That by Sidewalk Prophets
  • What is something that you are not very good at?
    • Ironing
    • Organizing piles of paper.
  • What is one place where we can find you the most?

Tweetable Quotes:

  • What got him in trouble inside organizations made him a lot of money outside of them.
  • With all the landmines organizations put in front of people, it’s a wonder any leaders succeed.
  • Trust is a currency.

Resources Mentioned:

Buildyournetwork.co – Podcast website

BYN.media/fb – Facebook Group


Rising to Power – book by Ron Carucci

Barking up the Wrong Tree blog

The Culture Code book by Daniel Coyle


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